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Post by Celestic on Apr 30, 2010 20:03:38 GMT -5
I'd have to disagree with you on that Celestic. Two things, first off, I'm guessing activity will about average to the same, some people get out, spend all their time on Aelyn, which is what i plan on doing for the first month of summer, than I go to the states, and camp, which means I definitely wont post for, if im lucky, 5 weeks, and probably wont be on more than 2 or 3 times over the whole course of my trip. I'm sure I'm not the only one who goes to camp or on vacation or whatever during the summer. Also, just because there's ideas doesn't mean there's action. I could sit and think about stuff all the time and never get around to doing it. We need to at least make some minor advances towards plot stuff, otherwise, as much as I hate thinking about it, the site will die. You do have a point. Granted I was referring to the majority of high schoolers getting out of school.
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Post by - [s][w][a][y] - on Apr 30, 2010 23:56:29 GMT -5
I've thought I've left plenty of opportunities for members to get involved with the plot, with Loners who can confront or join Lucid, those who have joined Lucid can help him take over the other packlands, or any loners, pack members or anything that has heard his call (Which was all of Aelyn) could go around to other packs and see how their reacting, what their plans are and whatnot.
One of the main reasons I've put this plot out is because Packs were NOT talking to each other... at all... which is completly unrealistic, considering borders touch and there would be some sort of pack interactions at one point or another.
Perhaps if I organized the boards a bit better or differently, did a mini-revamp or something? I have a lot of new ideas that will take a lot of work and might end up shutting Aelyn down for a bit while the rennovations go on, but I wanted to AT LEAST finish this plot before anything big happened. I have a lot of things in mind for Aelyn, its just a matter of getting them going and whatnot.
So, how about we make a list of things that we'd like to see, as a community, on Aelyn to make it more active and appealing, and less boring or whatever to members? With the final list, I'll post it in the staff section and see what things can be implemented? Does anyone think that will help the situation?
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Post by ♢ Skylar ♢ on May 7, 2010 0:54:33 GMT -5
*Pokes hide and tail in*
Hi guys. Its been a while yes? I come and check on things when I can, between my fathers heart failure, school, work, and the occasional real life drama that likes to snowball all at one time. Its been a LONG couple months. And I have to say, Im quiet disappointed about Haven being put back up for adoption. Roan I had lost muse for the several times Iv checked back here, but when it comes to being active with Haven, I was waiting on Sway to post with Masina in Fukai. I actually had an Idea to advance the plot a bit by Haven getting a little riled and wanting to go talk to other packs about Lucid. I didn't even get a PM about Haven being back up for adoption. Granted I should have been more active with other characters, so I have no one to blame but myself, but yall know I haven't dropped from the face of Aelyn from by the activity checks. A little consolation would have been nice about Haven.
As for Ideas on Aelyn getting back in the game, I agree with most of the Ideas with the plots. Making people feel more important in the roles they play, sub-plots, exc... But a real big thing, i think, is making sure the "head honchos" stay as active as possible with the RP (Lucid, Crow, Vanya, Ker.... yada yada) because life around here really centers around their attention. When people log in, they are not going to go looking right away for what Roan(example) is doing, they wanna see what the POWER is doing. I know it's as hard for the 'head honchos" players to be active in a time where barely anyone is active and it's a busy time of the year for real life, but having them come around and getting their noses into trouble and stuff will make people want to get their noses into it too when they check back once in a while like I was doing.
It was really sad to see Aelyn get so quiet during my "leave of absence".... but its not a lost cause. I say just keep the heart beat up with the plot, and people will FIND time because it's juicy again! I dont know, it's worth a shot.
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Post by - [s][w][a][y] - on May 8, 2010 9:20:56 GMT -5
I have mentioned on several occasions for people to tell me where I need to post... with the chaos that I've been adhering to, I haven't been able to keep track of every single one. I had seen that Haven was going un-posted with, so I put him up for adoption. You can still have a chance to RP with him and it might just be a huge misunderstanding as to why he was put up there. However, sadly to say, to make it fair, I think I would have to have you re-audition for him, as others have auditioned for him as well.
But yeah, I think that Aelyn can still remain alive, its just going to take a bit of work and you have some good points that you've brought up. Sorry about the whole Haven confusion, I had seen no posts with him and thought it had become inactive... I didn't know there was a post waiting for me.
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Post by ĢoτђikaFøx on May 9, 2010 7:44:53 GMT -5
I love Aelyn to bits and my wolves have all made homes here and I know many more of my wolves will want to do so in the future! So I will do everything I can to keep it alive ^-^ as it is I'm waiting on replies from other people, I intent to stay as active as is possible. My posting count will drop a bit over the May-June period cause I have exams, Aeon does as well so we need to focus on them more. I will definatly be on once a week to post (and that's the very very minimum, I have a habit of coming on here more than I should intstead of revision so no putting my wolves up for adoption, I'm here to stay!!) As for ideas well I gave one but it didn't work out so I will continue to think up what I can
*holds up Aelyn banner too big for my little fox-self but ir reads: I <3 Aelyn it shall not die!!!!!* ((alittle hyper, excuse me hehe))
think that's all for now but yeah ^^ loves Aelyn and ALL it's members! xxx Fox.G(othika) hehe[/b]
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Post by Legion on May 10, 2010 15:59:32 GMT -5
I know I'm still the new guy here, but Ive logged in at least once every day even if its for a few moments to check with what is going on, and over the course of a week and a half i have seen little to no activity, i know everybody has lives and tests are going on in school. but something has got to give the pressure is on and its only a matter of time, I really don't want to see another site be drove into the ground and i have to find a new one. Ive been threw so many already since 2007, First it was HOPE, the then WS, and countless others i have stayed and watched as they died till the end of where i couldn't even log in anymore. I really don't feel like watching another site disappear.
School is out in less than a week i think with summer coming there should be ample time to get everybody rears in gear and get some of these Ideas Flying and active and get plots Fired up and going. I hope activity pics up soon because in my personal opinion its a ghost town here as it is. and i totally agree with Skylar on this the center of attention is the alphas, betas and so on and so forth down the line of high ranks are the center of attention on sites like this, if they cant do there duty's the site goes in to a traffic jam, things do get posted or checked threw, and are sometimes even left hanging or go unchecked.
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Post by Cinder on May 11, 2010 11:18:51 GMT -5
Well Legion, do you have any actual IDEAS about how to spark activity? That is the purpose of this thread.
I have to say I do not agree with Skylar about everything being centered around what the head honchos are doing. I am NOT a alpha in every pack, but I am in Fukai so that one won't count.
In Toko I look to see if anyone has replied to MY posts, I do not go and be like oooo, what is Vanya doing?!?! If anything I look at my favorite RPers posts cause they are fun to read.
In Mountains...I don't go there very often, I just see the newest thread replied to and by who.
Nigori, same with Toko.
Now, as a staff member I am required to read over all the posts of everyone to make sure no breaking of the rules is happening, when I do this, I do not immediatly go to the alpha's posts. Because they probably should know what they're doing, because they are alphas. I go to the new people's posts first, and the newest threads.
So as to that statement I disagree complelty.
I really think a new layout completly will make the site more friendly and appealing and make more people want to log on.
I also think that we should have a graphics contest of sorts for anyone with Photo Manip or even drawing, but coloring computerly, skills for the new logo for the site. This might get some people to be more active in order to see results of this.
What do you guys think?
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Post by Legion on May 11, 2010 12:40:00 GMT -5
hmmm ideas huh?
Well for starters maby a site facelift isnt such a bad idea.
Idea 1 // Maby get some new plots going once the one with lucid is dont, maby have an unexpected drougt hit the area, instead of spring being months of plenty have the exact opposite happen things start to dry out and wither, fights for food break out between clans or for a temporary time try to make deals to get it, water becomes a precious commodidy worth more than gold. Pups and Elders become top priority as to how they will get threw the time or prolonged drought, and heat, and lack of water. How will the adults and higher ranks handle this new problem of the drought.
Idea 2 // maby some of the hunters or scouts notice a decrease in prey and wonder why they report back to the alphas about it. they later find out a desease has hit and is killing deer and other prey witch they hunt forcing to find alternative food sourses or a way to reverse the spead of the virus.
Idea 3 // Maby younger wolves ages 1 to 4 begin to fights against higher rank positions sort of as rebellion becuase they dont like how things are going with pack decions becuase they arent being listened to or included.
Please remeber these are just ideas so you guys have your choice on weather to listen to them or not.
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Post by nogardifer on May 11, 2010 12:55:48 GMT -5
A face lift is always a good idea. And we should just skip to new plots. The Lucid plot hasn't gone ANYWHERE in 5 months. Its not going to go anywhere. Lucid should fly into space and just die of suffocation there. As for the drought idea, not a bad one, but we have like 40 wolves with the power of water, and for drought, ALL the snow in mitsu would have to melt away and disappear.
As for the younger wolves fighting alphas, that would just add to the number of loners we already have. Pretty much anyone who tries to attack Kerrigan would die, instantly, Vanya would lift them up and blast the shit out of them with a lightning bolt, Cindershock would...well, cindershock them, any wolves who didn't end up dead in an instant would be loners. Not to bash your ideas, they just don't seem to fit with the personality of Aelyn.
As for my opinions on the Lucid plot. Frankly, I'm sick of it, I'm sick of hearing the name, I'm sick of coming up with really fucking good plans to beat him, than remembering, he's above god status! We can't beat him with brute force because he's 3 times as big as everyone else, we can't stratagize and kill him because he can read minds, we can't get up close to use powers because they don't work because of the magic collars he just, found, speaking of the collars, we can't cast illusions on him because they block all mind altering magic, Crow's point blank explosion that practically melted the rocks around him didn't so much as singe Lucid's whiskers, so our powers aren't worth a shit. Lucid has telekinesis so we can't just throw shit at him. There's no fucking way to kill him with what we have now. This is driving me fucking crazy. And quite honestly, if the Lucid plot doesn't disappear, I will.
And yes I've heard a thousand times, you should roleplay to figure out how to beat him, Oh right, i forgot, he's a vampire with weaknesses. Pretty sure none of us can be vampires, so that leaves us with.... options in the negative scale. So yeah, I'm done. I put up with this shit thinking it would go away or get better or just end, but it hasn't and I'm completely fed up with it. If you wanna talk than PM me for my instant messager account names.
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Post by Legion on May 11, 2010 15:40:57 GMT -5
Maby all the wolves should go to oldschool tactics, if there is a limit to how far Lucids mind powers can reach for distance. well then the wolves should do just that attack and stratigize from a distance, mix abilitys, throw some unexpected surpiz attacks at a distance. his omega may be able to nutrilize a wolves abilitys but not at a distance you attack from outside his reach of power and outside Lucids reach of mind reading.
Attack him with mixed abilitys screw up his sences, drop an unexpected spring blizzard over the area. Have the water, ice, and wind elementals work together as a unit and at a distance and disoriant them. he may be able to read minds but he cant give out advice over a howling wind stinging ice shards, and a blinding whiteout even wolves get disoeriented if the omega gets seperated fingure out where he got lost and surround him and take him out by pure brute force. throw in a few electrical type wolves and you got yourself a superstorm for the record books, drop lightning from the sky turn ice and water into a electrical conductor. there is a million different possiblitys and i can come up with a tone of them here and now.
Have the earth and fire elementals work together to constuct a massive sheet of Steel over a large area or half a mile, evacuate that area and wait till lucid passes over it, drop lightning over that area and what do you have massive electrical condutor and just keep hitting it with lightning from a distance, lightning can reach up to 15 miles outside a thunderhead im preaty shure they can hit it from a 5 miles away. even if its not very controled Steel is an excelent condutor.
Get the wind elementals together and blow lucids ass to another area. drop a massive tornado with the wind elementals working together from a distance freak storm blows in and happens to drop a massive f-5 tornado right where he happens to be standing. unless he can withstand 300+mile an hour winds he will be thrown somwhere else along with his mate and his omega.
Split the lands by a massive earthquake, have earth elementals work together and split the lands apart or drop lucid into a deep hole and close it before he has time to crawl or fly out end of story he is crushed by bedrock and stone, or get the water elements to full it with water and freeze it. seal him underground, can live without oxigen.
Encase him in a massive diamond even if he is super strong. diamond is the next hardest and strongest thing on the planet and cut off his oxigen supply. he sufficates to death and then drop him a hole somwhere and burry him end of story.
High powered and destructive energy bassed attacks that can be used at a distance.
Most of these are hit from a distance witch seems to be the only option we have left cant face him head on, and surpize attack him close range, so nail his ass with everything the packs have got that is distance wise even if it means combinding wolves abilitys somthing has to beat him.
I know these are just ideas but by god somthing has to give.
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Post by Imaginatio on May 11, 2010 18:46:09 GMT -5
Just to let you know; it's Maybe not Maby ^^.
And now, thanks for all the ideas, Legion has a thing going for a number of those. Drake, the idea of the Lucid plot is to get the packs working together as a community, and unfortunately all people seem to have done is say on the Chatterbox and OC Boards that it is impossible to beat Lucid without even trying.
Why don't you try it? You'll never know until you try. I think it's a little silly to just say it is a hopeless cause without even trying, because if that was how everyone saw things then nothing would ever get done.
Just remember, while Lucid and Mira are very powerful, Sinis on the other hand, isn't. So thats one thing, she's subject to all sorts of stupid ploys that'll get her out of the way etc. or even perhaps turned against Lucid (though what good that'll do xD) which will help the others. I can't help but feel you're all giving up at the first hurdle, seeing this big task and immediately saying no.
Activity is a joint work, guys, so we all need to work hard to make Aelyn an awesome place. I know you can do it, just looking at the entries to my Roleplay Contest has proved that.
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Post by - [s][w][a][y] - on May 11, 2010 19:17:25 GMT -5
Finally! Someone has come up with some great ideas to combat Lucid! Now, try them out if you think they'll work. I will say a couple things to comment on them though.... The only reason the explosion didn't affect Lucid was because he has dominion over Fire. And since he's a Vampire, you can't deprive him of oxygen. Other than that, I can see some of those ideas perhaps even working to bring him down, but the question is, can you guys actually do that? Thats been the issue here... members haven't wanted to even attempt to try anything to take him out.
And Drake, Kerrigan as well as a few other wolves are about his size.. and Crow is even larger than he is, so not all wolves are dwarfed by him.... and to add to that, size doesn't matter. Its just a matter of working together. I don't want plots that are going to last a week or two and then are finished, long plots work the best because members have to work them out. That's the point of a plot... not something easy, something to challenge the members and to bring something out for the forum to lead into other plots. This plot would have been moving quicker, but there have been a few minor glitches in the meantime, from inactivity to events happening hindering the chances of posting.
This is far from impossible. Legion seems to be onto something in his post, so I'd suggest reading it well and perhaps thinking about it. I'm not going to give all the answers or solutions to the plots, that would make it no fun.
And besides, when we finish the Lucid plot, there will be a bit of time before we jump into the next one, but trust me, it'll be way better than this plot, I can guarantee it.
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Post by nogardifer on May 11, 2010 21:01:14 GMT -5
To Sway: Yes. Finally. And I never came up with any good ideas. Thanks for giving us hints. As for Legions ideas, yeah they're good. Thank god we have someone who knows about weather on here, otherwise we'd still be stuck. As for the large wolf issue, I won't even comment on that.
To Tio: The thing is, its not so much that I'm giving up at the first hurdle, its that the only hurdle seems to be the first one, which I've been made to jump over endless amounts of time, and when i finally think I made it, someone decides to pull my leash, and down to earth I fall.
As for giving it a chance, its too late, I've already left. I've been saying for weeks now that if stuff doesn't pick up, I'm done; Today I just snapped, said fuck it, deleted my characters, left my thread, said my goodbyes. And I know you enjoyed having me around and what not, but I'm sorry, my minds been made up for a while now and no one's tried to intervene, so I'm done. Nothing you, or anyone else says can change my mind now. I'll be deleting my account on Thursday. Anyone who wants to ask why or get my MSN/AIM/YIM is welcome to PM me.
If I sound bitter, its because I am.
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Post by - [s][w][a][y] - on May 11, 2010 23:21:05 GMT -5
Your attitude lately has been highly inappropriate, Drake, I'm sorry to say. I've had just about enough of it. Consider this your final warning.
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Post by ♢ Skylar ♢ on May 12, 2010 1:54:40 GMT -5
I completely understand what you mean about Pming you Sway. Your a busy busy busy girl! and soon to be more busy, and thus makes your mind even busier. But it still would have been nice to get a PM from anyone about the re-adoption of Haven...
And Legion, those are brilliant ideas! Now its just a matter of who shall take the initiative lol I will for sure when the slightest bit of opportunity arises.
Drake, come on now. Everyone is frazzled by this lack of activity, but you don't need to take it out on everyone with fangs bared. This forum is meant to try and get things back on track, not put down the idea of getting it back on it's feet when it meets your schedule. Aelyn is about every one of it's members, and how it can work for EVERYONE, meaning everyone must compromise for everyone. That compromise is what everyones trying to figure out right now.
I agree on the skin revamp! Not that i dont like this one, but maybe make it more welcoming. My eyes get a little tired with the dark colors. Something that reflects Aelyn as a whole in it's intricate/mysterious birth and development.
Cinder- Okay, so it's different for everyone, but on the new-comer point of view, they are going to be looking for the leaders here and what they are up to. For more experienced Aelyn rpers, they will be looking at their favorite rpers and forums like you've stated. But on getting moral up on the new members, it might hold some interest.
I believe the Lucid plot should continue. Sway is right, Iv only rreally seen Crow stand up to Lucid. People need to try things, and step out of the box here.
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Post by Legion on May 12, 2010 16:24:08 GMT -5
Well regular pack wolves dont have power to make full blown decisions like what ive given as ideas unless a wolf was given the power to controle the pack it would have to be higher ranks that would have to come up with that sort of plan.
It maby a little far fetched sounding by my loner Named Judgement who is attempting to join the Marshlands could give the alphas some ideas once he joins them you know one on one talk about some of the ideas ive mentioned. Im still working that little Rp out so I can get him joined as a possible Gamma but its almost finished. But Maby he could bring out or at least sugest the first counter attacks, get the other wolves rallyed up enough to get them wanting to at least give the ideas a try, If given the power to.
I know he is just a tad powerfull for a Energy controling wolf, but not as powerfull as some of the wolves i seen. But if given premission by the Alphas and Betas of course maby he could carry out the first attempted counterattack against Lucid under the controle of the Alphas and Betas jurisdiction of course like he isnt given full power over the other wolves but is included in some of the major desisions on how to deal with lucid and keep members out of harms way without indangering the whole pack.
once again just a Idea.
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Post by - [s][w][a][y] - on May 12, 2010 17:12:47 GMT -5
Ideas are more than welcome. It only takes one wolf to make a difference, I guess you could say. I say just RP and see what happens.
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Post by xwhispersx on Jun 11, 2010 0:59:00 GMT -5
Hmm... what if we shove up a new board. Like a inner part of the plains or something (for a short while) and make a comment up the top of the forum that all wolves must post. like a thread for pups, for faes, for brutes etc within. Like a big communal thing for the packs to prepare for the battle against lucid. Lucids pack however can have a different thread for their little evil doings. This gives chars from all over aelyn to take a side, like my wolfie shay from toko can sneak in on lucids packs "meeting" and take sides with them while my sweet little kavu can amble away from lucid to the fukai/nigori meeting. get the idea?
This way EVERYONE instantly becomes that much closer to the plot. And if they choose to they can RP their way around being in the plot or whatnot.
Mind i wish i could explain things better instead of drooling it all over you guys ^^"
However it would mean a bit of work from staff possibly too =S depending on how we/you go about it...
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Post by - [s][w][a][y] - on Jun 11, 2010 23:34:21 GMT -5
Those are great ideas and I think I see where you're coming from.
To comment on that, the packs are more than welcome to join other pack threads and enter other lands.. its not like its forbidden for wolves to enter packlands that are not their own. Not to mention, wolves can make their way to the Sacred Circle and converse there if needed. Lucid hasn't set paw there since the Alphen Meetings, and he may or may not do so at any point.
Right now, what I'm waiting for is Lucid to be finish in the "The Choice" thread, where I can then move on with his plans... but I'm waiting for Cere to post because I'm thinking there's a bit of a posting order, but only for Vanya, Lucid and Minou... since they're the leadership there and it was Vanya in particular that Lucid had come to see. There are a lot of different ways that this thread could go, if only we could continue RPing in it. I have some other plans for Lucid in mind before anything big really happens.
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Post by xwhispersx on Jun 13, 2010 2:43:16 GMT -5
ah i understand. then it does really put a sligth stopper on things, you dont want to do something before anything hapens in case it doesnt even happen at all =S hmmmmmm.
Maybe you should get together a sub-plot. like a new bad guy or the like... and... i dont know -.-" lol
what if while that thread is up someone starts a new thread. something that wont clash to badly but can still be big like a thread (in place you mentioned) for a group of chars to come rp their ideas to destory lucid instead of just talking ooc about it? something fun but also plotish that wont get in the way...
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